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I found the discussion interesting, yes, politics are important but without the grasp of Marxist- Leninist economics it feels a bit empty..... and those could be added to the political layers you discuss.

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Hello Debora , can you be more specific?

Matt , enjoyed this enlightening conversation with Lew !

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what I mean is that the empowerment of Russia and China as sovereign economies is dictated by sovereign economics, in Marxist Leninist terms this is also addressed by Michael Hudson in his comparison of financialized economy versus industrialized ones..... but that is just one of the best, otherwise more informations can be found via WeChat and Chinese speaking channels that feel the void that many approaches in the West have reached, not necessarily due to to lack of content in all cases, but with a deeper understanding of both history and economics, that we lack in the West due to how the post WW2 US driven imperialist system has attacked anything in its way to profit and neoliberalization/ financialization of all aspects of the economy.... the covid crisis and imperialism are a clear example of that, specifically on how it has bitten the Western working classes, without tools compared to power relations within Russia and China, for example, but not solely.

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I'm not a fan of Marxist-Leninism, although I am an anti-imperialist, and also support the active role of dirigist sovereign govenments in economic affairs. That existed before both and after Marx and has nothing to do with Marx's system

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I am well aware, yet even non Marxists like Hudson are able to address that, that makes your analysis useful only with integration.....

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Meh... I get along great with many people who call themselves Marxists, and respect some Marxist leaders who did good for their people in the 20th century but I just don't think Marxism is good or useful, but rather see it as a subversive ideological system. The good that pro-Marxist leaders did was accomplished by their being good humans who used powers of government for good ends, but I don't see the Marxism as the cause of that goodness.

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thank you for your reply, as an historian you show how bias the learning in the West is.... thank you anyway....

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