Can You Spot the Fake?
"In a normal year, the Kentucky Poison Control Center might receive one call from someone who has taken ivermectin, a drug commonly used to treat parasites in livestock. But amid increasing misinformation about the drug’s ability to both treat and prevent COVID-19, that number has increased to six this year."
This alarming news was published in Spectrum News - formerly known as Time Warner Cable - on August 24, 2021, and should be a lesson to every American.
The lesson is not about Ivermectin being poisonous because it isn't, but about the pervasiveness of a type of new internet propaganda termed "informational flooding.”
https://dash.harvard.edu/bitstream/handle/1/12274299/Roberts_gsas.harvard_0084L_11469.pdf?sequence=1
In an even more “alarming” report, NPR wrote,
"Minnesota's Poison Control System is dealing with the same problem. According to the department, only one Ivermectin exposure case [telephone call] was reported in July, but in August, the figure jumped to nine."
Are you kidding me? Nine telephone calls are enough to make the news? We have 2,213 deaths on August 26 from COVID-19, but these nine telephone calls are enough to make the headlines?
We have a media blackout on how India used cheap Ivermectin to obliterate the Delta variant while we struggle unsuccessfully to sell the public on problematic yet profitable vaccines.
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/indias-ivermectin-blackout
The CDC coordinates all 55 poison control centers across the nation, and they are closely aligned with the FDA, which we now know is captured by Big Pharma. more on this later.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK537316/
Suddenly we see hundreds of articles on so-called "Ivermectin poisoning.” Indeed, we see more ARTICLES published than there were TELEPHONE CALLS in August on Ivermectin to poison control centers in the ENTIRE NATION.
NPR reports that during the period January 1 to August 31, there were 1,143 Ivermectin telephone calls to poison control centers which works out to 143 calls per month.
The Mississippi State Department of Health was careful to clarify that although telephone calls to poison control had increased, the vast majority of callers had only mild symptoms, and there were “no hospitalizations due to Ivermectin toxicity.”
https://msdh.ms.gov/msdhsite/_static/resources/15400.pdf
If you are still left wondering whether there might have been a tiny grain of truth in these articles, consider what was reported in Utah. This alarmist article is entitled, “The Utah Poison Control Center has seen a bump in calls about Ivermectin – which is not recommended for treating COVID-19.”
However, inside the article, you will notice the false alarm. The Medical Director of Utah poison control is quoted as admitting that it was only “some small increase” in Ivermectin phone calls, and no one required hospitalization.
https://www.sltrib.com/news/2021/08/30/utah-poison-control/
Yet for Utah alone, I counted at least twenty Ivermectin poison control articles, and for the nation, the count was well into the hundreds.
At least one publication made the leap from exaggeration to fabrication. Rolling Stone Magazine published an interview with an Oklahoma osteopathic physician, Dr. Jason McElyea, who claimed that Northeastern Hospital System’s emergency departments were overrun with so many Ivermectin overdoses that gunshot victims were having difficulty getting treatment. Dr. McElyea stated,
“The ERs are so backed up that gunshots victims were having a hard time getting to facilities where they can get definitive care and be treated.”
Multiple networks repeated the story, and it went viral.
But the report turned out to be false.
Rolling Stone was forced to publish a retraction of sorts, a correction to their report, wherein they stated the truth of the matter was the opposite. Northeastern Hospital System Sequoyah informed them that Dr. Jason McElyea, although affiliated with them, had not worked in the Sallisaw location in the last two months.
Furthermore, in a statement issued September 5, 2021, Northeastern Hospital System Sequoyah reported that no patients had been treated for Ivermectin overdose. Indeed no patients were treated for any complications of taking Ivermectin - and no gunshot wound patients or otherwise had been turned away from seeking emergency care.
It was all untrue. We were all lied to.
However, you can do your own research. For example, google the news on Ivermectin poisoning articles, and you will find almost all of them were published within the last few weeks. Nothing before then.
https://trends.google.com/trends/
Then have a look at the graphs above. Notice the steady increase in google searches on Ivermectin over the past 90 days. Notice these searches originated in ALL 50 STATES. This chart reflects truth and accurately portrays the broad interest of the public.
Contrast this with the abrupt onset of interest in this so-called "Ivermectin poisoning.” Does it make sense that only two states have enough searches to register this supposed national problem? Again, this reflects manufactured publicity, a fabricated story. If there were a real problem, one would see corroborating search interest nationally, not only in two isolated spots.
For example, when a physician from Tamil Nadu accused Uttar Pradesh of faking their numbers for political reasons, Juan Chamie, the Cambridge-based data analyst, looked at geographically localized google searches. The interest in oxygen tanks precisely reflected the number of COVID cases the data indicated. Very few searched for oxygen tanks in Uttar Pradesh, where there were few infections. Yet, at the height of their surge, the interest in Tamil Nadu tanks was off the charts and proportional to their COVID hospitalizations. Confirmation.
Here we see the hundreds of articles on Ivermectin poisoning exceeding the relatively tiny number of telephone calls. Moreover, the searches confirmed this was not a genuine problem; it was due to the technique of informational flooding, well known to experts in the science of internet propaganda.
Informational flooding is where the purveyor of the propaganda attempts to out-compete other accessible information to gain the consumers' attention. It is aptly described in this Harvard article entitled, “Fear, Friction, and Flooding: Methods of Online Information Control.”
https://dash.harvard.edu/bitstream/handle/1/12274299/Roberts_gsas.harvard_0084L_11469.pdf?sequence=1
NPR writes this, "Poison control centers are seeing a dramatic surge in calls from people who are self-medicating with ivermectin, an anti-parasite drug for animals..."
On the contrary, Ivermectin is used every day for scabies and is not confined to animals any more than penicillin is purely an animal antibiotic.
We are asked to believe that six telephone calls to poison control about Ivermectin are somehow newsworthy, yet over 100,000 calls to poison control on Tylenol each year are not. Moreover, no one dies of Ivermectin in a typical year, yet Tylenol accounts for 56,000 annual emergency room visits, 2,600 hospitalizations, and almost 500 deaths.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15239078/
The fact that Ivermectin is so much SAFER than over-the-counter Tylenol should make you wonder exactly why these articles made the news. The reason is simple. Pfizer and Merck are getting ready to launch expensive new anti-viral pills that can provide early outpatient treatment for COVID-19 and perhaps even be used preventatively. Yet Ivermectin remains effective, cheap, and safe and thus poses a HUGE threat to their profits.
What profits?
Let's say that if Ivermectin costs a few dollars a pill, these new medicines will be one hundred to one thousand times pricier. Merck's Molnupiravir has already been funded to the tune of 1.2 billion by the US government - translated, it means we - our tax dollars - have paid Merck for it already.
By ignoring cheap repurposed drug early outpatient treatments, we have already paid with our lives, in addition to whatever money it has cost us to entice Big Media to publish these hundreds of "hit pieces."
We know early outpatient treatment works for COVID-19, just as early treatment works against cancer, diabetes, glaucoma, hepatitis, and most other diseases. Yet our FDA and NIH, in their infinite wisdom, have asked us to do nothing for early outpatient treatment against COVID-19. Instead, however, we have repurposed drugs that help enormously. This science was published in the peer-reviewed literature by Dr. Peter McCullough, cardiologist, and Dr. Harvey Risch, an editor for “The International Journal of Cancer.”
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32771461/
Merck, more than anyone, knows Ivermectin to be safe as they developed this drug and used it in over three billion doses IN HUMANS in the Mectizan Program to eradicate River Blindness.
Yet Merck was among the first to cast stones against it. Merck was among the most vocal to denounce their drug regardless of the blood that would inevitably land on their hands. Merck sold us out for precisely 1.2 billion pieces of silver.
https://www.merck.com/news/merck-statement-on-ivermectin-use-during-the-covid-19-pandemic/
What is the evidence that Ivermectin is effective in COVID-19, you might ask?
Plenty.
Let us begin with basic science. In the laboratory, after Ivermectin was given to a cell culture teeming with COVID-19 infection, it killed virtually all the virus within 48 hours. There was a 5000 fold reduction in viral load, which translates to a 99.98% pathogen eradication. However, when I wrote my book on cancer, I realized that many drugs that work in the lab may not always work in live patients.
https://www.amazon.com/Surviving-Cancer-COVID-19-Disease-Repurposed/dp/0998055425
So you want to ALSO review clinical studies in people. For example, Remdesivir, a favorite of Big Pharma, a failure against Hepatitis and the Respiratory Syncytial Virus, worked in a test tube against Ebola. Still, when they tested it in people, it was a dud – just as many died in the placebo group as the Remdesivir group – about 53%.
So they tested it against COVID-19. A small study with 541 patients getting Remdesivir versus 521 on placebo showed no statistical difference in death and a 24% rate of serious adverse events in Remdesivir; however, against all odds, the FDA approved the drug for emergency use against COVID-19.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2007764
To add insult to injury, the WHO later completed another study in which Remdesivir failed miserably and failed to reduce death in COVID. Dr. Ilan Schwartz made it clear, “This puts the issue to rest — there is certainly no mortality benefit (from Remdesivir).”
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/15/health/coronavirus-remdesivir-who.html
Yet, the FDA did not revoke their Emergency Use Authorization for some strange reason, and they have maintained Remdesivir as their “go-to” drug. You can bet the majority of our 648,000 Americans who died from COVID-19 first received a dose of Remdesivir – at an average of $3,100 a pop – because it was on the protocol. We cannot expect a small thing, like the drug doesn’t work, to subtract from our FDA’s absolute prerogative to decide what is best for us – and what drugs we should purchase with our hard-earned health care dollars.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/15/health/coronavirus-remdesivir-who.html
The story on Ivermectin, thankfully, is quite the opposite of Remdesivir’s abject failure. Ivermectin has been a resounding success. It not only worked in the lab, it spectacularly reduced death in the living, and it worked early in the disease and late in the disease, often rescuing patients from ventilators and the jaws of death. It even performed before the infection began by effectively preventing it and nicely stopping viral transmission. And it was safe without serious adverse effects. In short, God Himself could not have given us a better tool to eradicate this disease.
We now have 63 and counting studies involving some 26,000 patients showing up to a 96% reduction in death associated with Ivermectin.
We have many peer-reviewed medical journal publications showing significant reductions in mortality associated with Ivermectin use. The meta-analyses are considered the highest form of medical evidence and even outweigh the randomized double-blinded placebo-controlled trial. Thus, the meta-analysis is regarded as the holy grail of medical research. We have two influential such publications authored by Drs. Tess Lawrie and Andrew Hill, British W.H.O. consultants. Both strongly show Ivermectin reduces death in COVID-19.
https://academic.oup.com/ofid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/ofid/ofab358/6316214
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34145166/
Dr. Pierre Kory also published a review:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8088823/
Dr. Pierre Kory and his group, the FLCCC, have recently published another comprehensive review, which updates the Ivermectin data to current as of August 29, 2021. This incorporates all the relevant evidence and is best described as the “the totality of the evidence for Ivermectin in COVID-19.”
https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/SUMMARY-OF-THE-EVIDENCE-BASE-FINAL.pdf
Dr. Peter McCullough published via preprint yet another review, and all of these strongly showed the drug to be safe and effective against COVID-19.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.06.21259924v1
We have real-world experience from numerous countries, including Mexico, Slovakia, Bulgaria, and India that adopted Ivermectin and saw their COVID cases evaporate.
https://www.amazon.com/Ivermectin-World-Justus-R-Hope/dp/1737415909
We saw the real-world experiences of Drs. George Fareed and Brian Tyson from California's Imperial Valley in saving 99.9 % of their 6,000 patients using a cocktail that included Ivermectin.
Beyond all the scientific evidence, we have plain common sense. Ralph Lorigo is an attorney who has won numerous court orders for Ivermectin for dying COVID patients on ventilators. In nearly every case, after the Ivermectin, they rapidly improved. Most recovered and went home. Many were able to go off the ventilator within 24 hours of the Ivermectin dose.
If Ivermectin did not work, as our trusted agencies continue to advise us, why would this occur? Why would these patients so consistently respond to a drug they advise against? Are Lorigo’s cases just lucky, or might the obvious be true? Always use common sense when the government tells you the science is “too complicated” for you to understand or that all their paid experts agree it doesn’t work. Perhaps the question you should ask is not whether Ivermectin works but how much they are paying their experts.
We have watched the movement on Ivermectin proceed with steadily increasing global attention on google searches - in sharp contrast to the concocted ad hoc PR campaign hastily crafted in August by Big Pharma on these laughable poison control stories.
When will the next expensive, toxic and ineffective drug be forced upon us? We should be on high alert that more propaganda is coming our way. If we haven't seen enough horse and cow articles or enough "Public Service Messages" to get the vaccine, soon we may hear that some fancy new pill that claims to do what Ivermectin already does is finally "approved" by the FDA.
Soon we may be allowed to take a medicine that may work against COVID-19. But unless it contains Ivermectin in some form, don't count on it being effective – or safe.
And don't believe they will ever approve Ivermectin. Over the last two months, the large pharmacy chains have started to refuse to fill valid physician prescriptions. Although they continue dispensing it for scabies, many refuse to fill it for anything else. The drug is not dangerous as no one with scabies is calling the hotline.
It is more than 100 times safer than Tylenol, judging by telephone calls to poison control. And it is almost as cheap. And its effectiveness against COVID-19 is without parallel. For example, on August 30, 2021, in India in the State of Uttar Pradesh, there were only 23 new cases of COVID-19 out of a population of 240 million people. That is about one case per ten million.
On the same day, in the United States, we saw 280,403 cases or about one new case per thousand people. The difference between one per ten million and one per thousand is 10,000. Here in the United States, we are ten thousand times MORE LIKELY to get sick with the Delta variant. Uttar Pradesh WIDELY USES IVERMECTIN. The US does not.
The United States demonizes it in their media, pressures their pharmacists to NOT dispense it, and threatens doctors who do.
Regulatory Capture is the reason why, says Dr. Pierre Kory. See mark 14:35 and 16:00.
It boils down to plain old corruption. It is when the prison guard is paid to look the other way when someone is being knifed, or a drug deal is being made. It is when Big Tobacco sends a US Senator to the Cayman Islands to go snorkeling in exchange for voting against a law taxing cigarettes. It is when ten out of eleven physician panel members vote against approving a $56,000 a year questionably effective and toxic Alzheimer's drug, yet the drug gets FDA approved anyway.
It is when a cheap repurposed drug that could end the pandemic - if widely used as prevention in all contacts - gets thrown under the bus to pave the way for Molnupiravir. It is when two Senate Hearings on early outpatient treatment are ignored to promote profit at the cost of 648 thousand American lives.
We may not be able to do much about poisonous informational flooding, but we can all recognize it when it occurs by the sheer number of copycat stories. We can usually see who or what is behind it and boycott those groups UNLESS it is our own government agency, in which case we need to vote for some different people who will reform it. Like Henry Waxman reformed Big Tobacco, someone needs to reform our agencies before we lose more American lives.
Until we end the Regulatory Capture of the US Food and Drug Administration and its Big Brother, Centers for Disease Control, we can continue to expect more of the same: expensive, dangerous, and marginally effective drug approvals. And a smokescreen on anything cheap that actually works.
Dr. Justus R. Hope, writer’s pseudonym, graduated summa cum laude from Wabash College where he was named a Lilly Scholar. He attended Baylor College of Medicine where he was awarded the M.D. degree. He completed a residency in Physical Medicine & Rehabilitation at The University of California Irvine Medical Center. He is board-certified and has taught at The University of California Davis Medical Center in the departments of Family Practice and Physical Medicine & Rehabilitation. He has practiced medicine for over 35 years and maintains a private practice in Northern California.
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Great article.
I call bluff on the poison control. I honestly don't believe they got all these calls. Nothing happens if you take a little extra horse paste, maybe gasy, and no one is taking enough for a 2 ton horse. Who could tolerate the taste of the entire thing?! It doesn't taste anything like apples and its consistency is of Vaseline. They're lying, no one is ODing on this stuff.
This is amazing. Not the details in the story in particular - though it's great, but the fact that you guys do actual journalism! And shockingly you're in America! :-)
Checking in from Australia, where I think some people are starting to wake up to the fact that the media is just a propaganda engine these days.
Great to see this. Great work, great references, nice analysis on the Google trends, everything.
You're helping to save the world.
This report was excellently done. Even I could understand it. Thanks for that report
Great article ! Thank you. I’ve been taking ivermectin as a virus preventative every other week since December 2020. Recently upped it to weekly. Am 73. I have remained healthy and had no sickness of any kind since. Most of all, I have visited family and friends, dined out, gone to the gym regularly, shopped, with no fear. Am so grateful for the psychological peace of mind through this crazy pandemic. When a non-mRNA vaccine is approve, like Novavax, I will get vaccinated. Until then, I will stay on ivermectin. Have recently shifted to ordering ivermectin from India as it is less costly as well I can order in larger amounts. I expect that all US pharmacies will soon stop filling ivermectin prescriptions. I have lost trust in our public health care agencies, highly question the pharmaceutical companies, and rely on front lone doctors effectively treating their patients for COVID-19 and the variants. Our hospitals have become a place to die for those entering with serious COVID-19 symptoms. The world has gone completely mad. Am not an anti-vaxxer…until this pandemic and the harmful mRNA vaccines unleashed on trusting populations. History will not be kind to this criminal and corrupt period in our medical practices and laws.
Article of the year right here! Well written and carefully substantiated.
But, is it true that cases were already falling in India before they updated their protocol to recommend Ivermectin?
Further, is this also true? "Animal de-worming products contain Ivermectin PLUS additional ingredients, both active and "other". It is these additional ingredients (including the makeup of any tablet or capsule used as the delivery mechanism) that may be problematic for humans." If so, there's a good reason for news outlets to write "horse dewormer", if in fact lots of people out there are actually taking their farm animals' prescriptions with no regard for what differences there may be in the formulations.
Consider just this one comment: "Leisa Wilson Jack Edwards • 12 days ago
@JackEdwards when they first said that ivermectin would most likely save your life if you get Covid-19, I made sure I had a new, unopened bottle of ivermectin injectable, and big tube of ivermectin paste for myself, and my family. We've used it for our cattle, horses, and dogs how ever long it's been on the market! "
https://todaysveterinarynurse.com/articles/what-veterinary-teams-need-to-know-about-ivermectin-and-covid-19/
Equine Ivermectin comes with a toxicological sheet that shows how much it takes to kill 50% of the rats that were used in establishing its toxicology. Not only for the Ivermectin, which is exactly the same formulae as in tablets labeled for human consumption, but for each of the ingredients that accompany the Ivermectin. Per that sheet you would have to take many tubes and any one who took a whole tube is seriously missing brain cells.
The dose for horse and human is the same in that each gets .2mg per kg. For a 180lb human that's 16.4 mg or about what you'd give a 200 lb horse which can easily be dialed in. The whole tube contains 113mg of Ivermectin for a 1250lb horse. If you can multiply you can set the plunger on the tube for the correct dose.
All the nonsense about Poison Control Centers is lies and propaganda by miscreants and lazy journalists.
Labeling of drugs is strictly controlled by lawsuits and lawyers and has little to do with reality unless it's factual information like the list of ingredients, how much and dose.
If you looked at the graphs; cases and deaths continue to rise then fall after the application date of Ivermectin. This represents the roll-out lag of the drug and then the deaths lag behind the fall in case counts.
The one thing about the article that I found disturbing was the claim that meta analytic studies are the gold standard in research.
They are not. And for good reason. They bring together many studies and every problem of ever study is included. They are really only as good as the research that was done. How could they be anything else but. It's like saying a review of the literature is better than the literature. Really? It's going to take some fast talking statistician to convince me a study of ten research papers produces a result that is better than the ten papers. All a Meta study does is afford you a wider picture of where research has been and possibly going. If you have 15 studies under review and 12 of them show positive results and 2 are neutral and one is negative then you might go with the positive result but you would surely have to examine very closely the outliers to find out why there were outliers. And if all 15 pointed you towards positive results that doesn't mean a thing unless you can see from the research design that protocols were established and followed and fell within best design standards. And to anyone who claims to be a physician and teach medicine and yet doesn't know that, I am highly suspicious and I am one who has taken Duravet Equine Ivermectin as a prophylaxis. But I won't tolerate bull from anyone, even if they are supporting what I think to be true. Especially one who hides his identity. Is this what we've come to? Is this how the American people are to be served? By dueling liars? I have friends in AZ who got covid within a day of each other and treated it with Equine Ivermectin and both were recovered within 4 days. I've used it on my horses for years. I've read the toxicological sheet that accompanies every tube, especially Section 11 that shows the data on how much it takes to kill 50% of the rats it's given too and I've read the research about it being administered 3.7 Billion times in humans with 60 deaths and 4000 cases of adverse reactions. As this article says, that is a safer record than Tylenol. The problem isn't Ivermectin but human variation that is just a fact that has to be dealt with and your choice is to take nothing and die or take something and what you opt for rationally is that which promises to help by doing the least amount of damage. But please don't tell me a meta analysis is the gold standard of research. It isn't. Randomized blind control studies are. But sometimes they are simply not available, like in a pandemic and for ethical reasons. But the state of affairs isn't freeze and do nothing unless you have a randomized trial. You choose among the options and in this case you are limited to observations and clinical judgement. The pharmaceutical people and government bureaucrats who tell you otherwise are simply liars. Disgusting stone cold liars that would rather line their pockets than save lives. Really despicable. That, Hillary Godham Clinton, is what 'deplorable' is!
Hi Daniel. I am not a researcher but I had thought, based on conversations with a friend who went to school for Chinese Medicine, as well as following podcasts, etc. of people who DO do scientific research, that meta-analysis was considered the FORMAT with the highest level of checks and balances that may not guarantee good data or total integrity but gives the best chance of it. The reason, according to my understanding is that - yes, of course, whether an individual study is done well or done badly is at the root of whether its data and conclusions are good - but that because there are so many factors that can make a study either “bad” or just limited in its ability to reveal accurate trends/correlations, etc., meta-analyses help CORRECT for problematic study designs. For instance, if a particular double-blind study is HUGE yet has some flaws in its assumptions based on its design, that entire study is squewed according to the direct of those oversights.
Wasn’t this the reason for the Cochrane Collaboration and isn’t one of the problems we need to correct for a deeply corrupt and biased system in which science is funded and manipulated by powerful industry?
I really want to hear the content of the 'calls to poison control' , the vast majority of which are probably rational & simple inquiries. Run hide we all gonna fry if we seek information
Excellent article. Well resourced. So the question is for those of us that have scripts for Ivermectin, where do we get it filled?
Have a look at the 14 approved drugs for Covid treatment in Thailand. Posted at I have archived it here so that it will remain in our history forever
https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://ndi.fda.moph.go.th/uploads/file_news/202107273910407.pdf
Ivermectin tablet
The powers that be have to maintain the illusion that there are no "adequate, approved, and available alternatives" that can be used to treat COVID19. otherwise they would have to withdraw the Emergency Use Authorization for the "investigational vaccines" that they have mandated for the armed forces, federal employees, and used pressure to force on all the many large corporations and institutions across the US. That is Federal Law -- no EUA can be issued if there is a safe and alternative treatment. Hence the endless censorship and lies about Ivermectin (and hydroxychloroquine).
https://www.fda.gov/emergency-preparedness-and-response/mcm-legal-regulatory-and-policy-framework/emergency-use-authorization
Under section 564 of the (FD&C Act), when the Secretary of HHS declares that an emergency use authorization is appropriate, FDA may authorize unapproved medical products or unapproved uses of approved medical products to be used in an emergency to diagnose, treat, or prevent serious or life-threatening diseases or conditions caused by CBRN threat agents when certain criteria are met, including there are no adequate, approved, and available alternatives.
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Excellent article!! Finally...an article that’s put in layman’s terms so we regular folks can understand! Thank you for linking all your sources as well. Keep up the good work!
This is the best written article I've seen in a long time. Referring with links to other source data for any of your statements is excellent. Keep up the great work. Joined so I can connect in the future. Congratulations What Journalism should be.
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